Do Not Be Surprised…: "The Steven Furtick Show" Now Playing at Harvest Bible Chapel

James MacDonald, pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel, and host of radio program, Walk in the Word, has given his seal of approval to Steven Furtick, pastor of Elevation Church.  We know this because he has turned his pulpit over to him while he was out of town preaching at a church in Texas.

Some will be surprised by this and some will not.  I, however, am not surprised.  You can read about it at the link below and get details of Furtick’s “message” from someone who attended.

Do Not Be Surprised…: “The Steven Furtick Show” Now Playing at Harvest Bible Chapel

(HT:  Chris Rosebrough)

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17 Responses to Do Not Be Surprised…: "The Steven Furtick Show" Now Playing at Harvest Bible Chapel

  1. Jay says:

    totally not surprised. James mac gave plenty of credibility to Steve furtick when he invited him to participate in his “Elephant room” taping a while back, along with driscoll, chandler, Greg laurie and perry noble (smh at that list of ministers)

  2. Kiwi Dave says:

    That was a real eye opener. This is one of the latest warning from that blog regarding a blasphemous “baptism”, and again it’s the same evil sprit at work:

    http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2011/01/baptism-hijacked.html

  3. Doug says:

    I’m guessing that these churches/organizations have no elder board praying for God’s leading. One strong pastor holding sway over a congregation in a personality cult is trouble. When they start endorsing each other-again, without church leadership to hold their egos in check-more trouble.

  4. Josephearl says:

    Kiwi Dave you are sadly mistaken when you join forces with unbelief and ignorance that say IHOP is of the devil. Have you ever been there? I have, perhaps 30 times since 2003, and can assure you that the presence of God is there, that the people who go there spend many hours in prayer and that real Biblical Christ honoring miracles take place. I have observed their fruit over a period of 10 plus years and can speak confidently that the fruit is good. If your used to a dead form of Christianity then I can see how one might struggle with it but dead religion does not negate the power of God nor God Himself as He interacts with His people. If a man asks for Holy Spirit to come the Bible says that one can expect God to send that very person in response.
    love ya, JE

  5. Eli says:

    Josephearl – that works both ways. If all you’ve ever had is bad fruit, and told that it’s normal, how will you recognize good fruit when you see it. God tells us in no uncertain terms how He speaks and interacts with us, and that is through His word. Not through extra-biblical “revelations” and kundalini style worship that does not honor Him.

    IHOP”s unbiblical doctrin of Dominionism speaks for itself, and does not line up with a literal interpretation of scripture. do the research and stop letting IHOP tell you what to believe.

  6. Ruitje says:

    @Kiwi Dave, this video is shocking and made me think of the way Todd Bentley was baptizing people. I was shocked by the questions this man asked to the child and the family (they are not the ones that were getting baptized, why did they have to answer these questions?). I never see in scripture that this is the way to baptize. People were baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, but you do not read these strange questions this man was asking or the things he was proclaiming. These people are deceived. I think it is all about emotions and it is soulish. But the false teaching is inspired by demons (doctrines of devils).

  7. Josephearl says:

    Eli, I suppose if you really do not believe the word means what it says then to read it and not act upon it is the norm you are familiar with. We are to be doers and hearers. Paul was specific in saying that he did not just speak words but had the power of the Living God backing it up. He healed the sick when faith was there and caused whole cities to be in an uproar because of these demonstrations of the Spirit and the power of God’ And…You people really use the kundalini fear angle a lot. Sorry I don’t buy it. And as far as the ‘Dominionism” you refer to I do not think it is a present day doctrinal stance of the IHOP group. I do notice however that many who oppose them are doctrinally perverse in that they are cessationist’s. That being those who do not believe the Holy Spirit and His gifts are for today. This is without a doubt the worse doctrinal error in what some called mainstream Christianity today. The nerve of these perverters of truth to deny the Blessed Holy Spirit His desired role in the modern day church astounds me. And how sad and undiscerning that so many who read the Bible actually follow them in their demonic doctrine of cessation. The simple truth is you are in error. love ya though, JE

  8. Kiwi Dave says:

    @Ruitje the very fact that the girl was laughing was a giveaway. Baptism is very, very serious:

    “The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ” I Peter 3:21 KJV

    @Josephearl, you’ll need to show me where the Apostle Philip recited all the questions that were asked of that girl when he baptised the Ethiopian eunuch. Please point out those questions/proclomations in the scriptures below, because I can’t find them in my Bible:

    “26And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

    32The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

    33In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

    34And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.” Acts 8:26 – 39 KJV

  9. Doug says:

    I imagine Josephearl is all primed for a doctrinal spat. Josephearl, I hear you and I hope that you will listen as I write this-many of us who visit here once were Pentecostal. We’ve been where you are, but God gave us discernment (which i know you would argue against. Save it-I’m not looking for arguefight)- I’m just stating that God did something for us which brought us out of Pentecostalism.
    May He do that same work in your life.

  10. “You people really use the kundalini fear angle a lot. ”
    Are they now your enemy because they tell you the truth? Are you somehow a different type of Christian from those who disagree with you?
    ” because of these demonstrations of the Spirit …”
    If you believe these un-notated scriptures are a demonstration, perhaps you might seek your pastor to understand basic scripture better.
    “Sorry I don’t buy it.”
    I didn’t see anyone trying to sell anyone anything. The subject isn’t them, and it certainly isn’t to satisfy you.
    “And as far as the ‘Dominionism” you refer to I do not think it is a present day doctrinal stance of the IHOP group.”
    This is well documented on many sites. It is your onus, not those sticking to a subject on topic, to prove otherwise.
    ” many who oppose them are doctrinally perverse in that they are cessationist’s.”
    Totally unrelated to the subject at hand, besides bringing up an additional non-related subject.
    ” This is without a doubt the worse doctrinal error in what some called mainstream Christianity today.”
    Who are the “some”?
    ” The nerve of these perverters of truth”
    So, without proving anything by logic, let alone with scripture you make yourself judge. Are you to be the jury too?
    “The simple truth is you are in error. love ya though, JE”

    There is simply nothing whatsoever in the words you use that speak of love. The constant spewing of vitriol towards believers is inexcusable.

  11. Josephearl says:

    Your response is so filled with ignorance its bizarre. But then again I do understand that some of you are unregenerated and the rest live in fear of being deceived as you suffer with an excessive intake of poor theology that has left you confused. Ignorant statements like this are a testimony to the above statments veracity.

    ““And as far as the ‘Dominionism” you refer to I do not think it is a present day doctrinal stance of the IHOP group.”
    This is well documented on many sites. It is your onus, not those sticking to a subject on topic, to prove otherwise.
    ” many who oppose them are doctrinally perverse in that they are cessationist’s.”
    Totally unrelated to the subject at hand, besides bringing up an additional non-related subject.””

    I do not see it documented anywhere that they have continued in it today, if indeed it was ever a prime focus of their ministry. Find me some recent literature, notice I said RECENT as in the last 4-5 years or so, from their web site that promotes your ‘dominionist’ error and let me read it. You take stuff out of context and from many years ago and attempt to make it appear as if its their present day doctrinal stance. Thats hogwash and a demonic/fleshly work.

    As far as the moronic cessationist doctrine being off topic (what a cop out that line of argument is) I feel it is very relevent as it is a prime indicator that the person you are dealing with is already steeped in dead orthodoxy, unbelief and doctrines of demons. Or do you think man invented the error of cessation? Maybe it was man at one time, I do not know its origin, but it sure has devils facilitating its propagation now. And from one cessation propagator or the group entoto I have little confidence that they can rightly divide the word of truth about anything. I mean if you miss that no-brainer what else are you missing and infecting the true church with?

    and just as I love the most vile and cruel sinners in the world, and I work with some daily, I do have a genuine love for misguided saints and those who need to be born again yet sit in the church or stand behind the pulpit. Don’t make the mistake of thinking my not following your error means I do not care about where you spend eternity. I do.
    shalom, JE

    • Josephearl, that was your last post. If you could discuss things in a civilized and respectful manner, I wouldn’t ban you. As it stands, you aren’t able to do so.

  12. Darrel says:

    Mr. JE: please explain to all of us how it is that pentecostal/charasmatic folks are so right and full of the (a) spirit when every one of them has a different story (they call it gospel), they all claim to be filled with the same spirit and all tell you a different way to go in order to find god-their god, not the God of scripture. Maybe you got some ‘splaing to do. Maybe they are just another boat load of false apostles. Maybe the boys at NAR originated in hell. Maybe you really are deceived.

  13. Carolyn says:

    Josephearl…hopefully one day you will see the pride and elitism of the teaching behind Pentecostalism and charimania…we were all taught that to be filled with the Spirit you had to speak in tongues and if you didn’t, you were not filled.

    That has led to more abusive conduct and nonsensical thought than we have space here to discuss. The fruit of the Spirit – in particular, humility and wisdom, tells the real story about whether one is filled with the Spirit or not. The ability to handle the Word of Truth with understanding and maturity will conform you to God’s will and purpose long before the imature, faithless, tongues talking, spiritually arrogant crowd ever will.

    Instead of viewing things through the lens of the your cultish background, start viewing it through the lens of God’s Truth that you are reading with Spiritual understanding for the first time. Take a long, honest look at the brainwashing that has corrupted your view of Scripture.

    As another Pentecostal raised, elitist…my advise? Come down off your platform of prideful predjudice, stop reviling other true believers and be conformed to the image of God’s Son…rather than your predetermined view of how things are. You have been blinded by an “ism”. You will discover, as I did, that Christian life and love exists on a far deeper plane outside of Charismania.

  14. JimmyKrackKorn says:

    Just another sign of the apostate church. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t30uZ-0gBPk

  15. ian vincent says:

    To Josephearl,

    IHOP (and the toronto blessing movement) is a mixture.

    No doubt many there are saved and their faith in Jesus is genuine.

    However, it appears they can’t tell the difference between the Holy Spirit and demons.

    When people manifest a demon, invariably they think they are being blessed by the Holy Spirit. They can’t tell the difference, and that is dangerous.

    That said, mainstream evangelicalism in America is no less confused and no less demonized than IHOP. It’s the same “angel of light” that visits them all, where they don’t have a fear of God and do not respect the authority of Scripture.

    http://ianvincent.wordpress.com/

  16. Carolyn says:

    Getting back to the Stephen Furtick show….

    Stephen Furtick is your typical Word of Faith spin doctor. As I was listening to his take on “I am that I am”, he is making God out to be the genie in the bottle to get all his needs met. God is whatever you need. Just rub the bottle and he will be that for you. Whatever you can think of that you need, that’s what God is.

    What? Somehow when I read that in context, or with a Hebrew Bible, I don’t get that out of it. Here’s a thought:

    That God exists by himself (monotheistic) for himself and is independent of anyone’s dictates, even Steven F’s. Get to know God for who he is…not as the genie in the bottle. Although he does meet our needs, he is not subject to our incantations and witchcraft, which is basically what WOF doctrine turns out to be.

    Love the truth, love God, love his Word. Let the Spirit (who was promised by Christ to teach us all things) let Him teach you all things. Then you will no be led astray by the false teachings of men who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

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