Reverend Barbie

Just what your wee one wants for Christmas – Reverend Barbie.  I only wish I were making this up.

Reverend Julie Blake Fisher of Kent, Ohio, created the doll as a gift for a friend, and also uses the doll in her youth ministry so the children can play with the vestments and learn what they are.  (Source.)  I don’t know, I guess I always felt learning the Word of God was more important than learning what vestments are, but what do I know?  I’m just a Bible believer.

Oh, and get this… Reverend Barbie has her own Facebook page.

I only shudder to think of what apostate church leaders will come up with next.

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30 Responses to Reverend Barbie

  1. Berean Gal says:

    I have no words.

    God, have mercy!

  2. Robert L. says:

    I don’t have an issue with this one. Children respond well to visual aids, it can be a usefull teaching mechanism to drive home a point.

    I do have a problem with certain PEOPLE who associate themselves with a particular symbol of Christianity ( the cross ), all in an attempt to promote themselves or a product or service they are endorsing. Then everyone finds out after they hightailed it ot of town that they were nothing more than scammers and pulled the wool over everyones eyes.

    * This does not fit in the same category as the beloved TV evangelists who peddle their trinkets and wares over the religeous airwaves. Thats for a whole other day.

  3. unworthy1 says:

    What is one of the MAJOR signs of the soon return of Christ? Deception! Christ warns of it in Matthew 24, it is the first thing He says when the disciples ask Him what will be the sign of His coming and the end of the age. This latest ‘fad’ is just another in a long line of signs that the deception is upon us and growing like a cancer. We need to cry out to the Lord, ‘in wrath, remember mercy’. This world is absolutely oblivious to the rapid forthcoming judgment of Almighty God, as revealed in Revelation. Every man is doing what is right in his own eyes, lost souls are wallowing in their sins like pigs in the mud. Men and women are going about business as usual, totally clueless to the signs of the end of the age. Wickedness is increasing, sin is flourishing and escalating…and it will all come to a head, so to speak, very soon. If not, we will self-destruct.
    I strongly second Berean Gal’s response…God, please, have mercy!!

  4. Denise says:

    This can’t be ok with Mattel. Its at least a trademark infringement, I think.

    This barbie is as authentic as the priestess who made her and the priestess to whom it was given.

    At least Barbie keeps silent, which is more than I can say for the big, bad feminist priestesses of the Episcopalian church.

    Vestments aren’t even biblical: 2Ki 10:22 “He said to him who was in charge of the wardrobe, “Bring out the vestments for all the worshipers of Baal.” So he brought out the vestments for them.”

    Then again, neither are women elders/pastors, feminism, nor mocking God’s Word biblical.

    They are only heaping God’s wrath on their heads.

  5. Greg the Explorer says:

    I just joined her facebook page. Denise you are off your rocker – what on earth is wrong with women priests/elders/pastors? I for one think this a great thing

  6. Berean Gal says:

    Thank you Unworthy1 for your comments.
    I agree, the deception is and will continue to be greater
    and greater, so much that “IF it were possible, the very elect
    would be deceived”.

    How about the Scripture that says,

    “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority
    over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Tim.2:12

    I’m sure that will open up a debate!

  7. Mike L. says:

    Greg,

    Are you being facetious? If not, I suggest you search the Scriptures and see what the Lord says about leadership (aka., priests/elders/pastors), who held them and what the qualifications were.

    In His service,

    Mike

  8. David T says:

    Greg ~

    Seriously, you think this is a great thing? And you think that women priests /elders/pastors is a good thing too? Please, show us in Scripture, not with your opinion, where women are told they can be a priest/elder/pastor.

  9. Cop says:

    Your right, Barbie can’t be a priest/ elder / pastor. So will have to wait for Ken to find the Lord so he can led all the dolls and action figures to Christ.

  10. A small point of clarification:Every believer is a priest (male or female)As for elder/overseer even Mary ,Jesus’ mother ,couldn’t make it.

  11. Malcolm says:

    WOW! This is awesome! But wait…does it come with a free prophetic mp4 player?? YOU BET!!
    Call now and we will not only send you Reverend Barbie, but you will also get a FREE, yes boys and girls, A FREE Manasseh Jordan mp4 player for your false prophetic pleasure. Now your Barbie can go to church in vestments and style and be able to falsely diagnose medical conditions and claim financial breakthrough. By sowing your seed today, you can be a part of it all and we urge you to get to those phones and call right now! —— WHAT A JOKE!!! It would be funny if it was not so sad to see. What next…a baby doll that wets her diaper with holy water???

  12. Deborah, and Huldah in the Old Testament and Priscilla and Phoebe in the New Testament.

    Deborah, as prophet and judge, led the army of the Lord into successful combat (Judges 4 to 5). Huldah, also a prophet, authenticated the scroll of the Law found in the temple and helped spark the great religious reform in the days of Josiah (2 Kings 22; 2 Chronicles 34).

    Tabitha
    (Dorcas) is called a disciple and had a ministry of helps (Acts 9:36). Philip had four
    virgin daughters who prophesied (Act s 21:8,9). Euodia and Syntyche were Paul’s
    coworkers who shared in his struggle to spread the gospel (Philippians 4:2,3). Priscilla
    was another of Paul’s exemplary “fellow workers in Christ Jesus” (Romans 16:3,4, NIV).
    In Romans 16, Paul greets a multitude of ministering persons, a large number of them
    women.

    Phoebe, a leader in the church at Cenchrea, was highly commended to the church at Rome by Paul (Romans 16:1,2). Unfortunately, biases of modern English translators have sometimes obscured Phoebe’s position of leadership, calling her a “servant” or “helper”, etc. Yet Phoebe was diakonos of the church at Cenchrea. Paul often used this term for a minister or leader of a congregation and applied it specifically to Jesus Christ, Tychicus, Epaphras, Timothy, and to his own ministry. Depending on the context, diakonos is usually translated “deacon” or “minister.” Though some translators have chosen the word deaconess (because Phoebe was a woman), such a distinction is not in the original Greek.
    It seems likely that diakonos was the designation for an official leadership position in the Early Church.

    Junia was identified by Paul as an apostle (Romans 16:7). But many translators and scholars, unwilling to admit there could have been a female apostle, have since the 13th century masculinized her name to Junias. The biblical record shows that Paul was a strong advocate of women’s ministry.

    These are instances of women filling leadership roles in the Bible and should be taken as evidence of a divinely approved pattern, not as exceptions to divine decrees. Even though there is a limited number of women in the bible commended in leadership roles, these should affirm that God does indeed call women to spiritual leadership…and not just of other women.

    There are only two passages in the entire New Testament which might seem to contain a prohibition against the ministry of women (1 Corinthians 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2:12). Since these must be placed along side Paul’s other statements and practices (and scripture texts indicating Paul’s support of women in ministry are far more numerous than his supposed prohibition of them), they can hardly be absolute, unequivocal prohibitions of the ministry of women. Instead, they need to be seen as teachings dealing with specific, local problems that needed correction and not general universal church rules.

  13. and let’s not forget Galatians 3:28 – neither jew nor greek nor male nor female in the church – we are all one

  14. So there you go Mike, I did search the scriptures and I have found what I believe it says about women in leadership roles – can I respectfully suggest that you do the same and not leave out the scriptures that don’t agree with your own limited point of view.

  15. Denise says:

    Deborah was a judge, not a priestess nor a pastor. And it was a judgment on Israel to be ruled by women.

    Isa 3:12 My people–infants are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your paths.

    Tabitha was a servant, not an elder.

    Phoeba was a servant, not an elder.

    Not one disciple of all twelve were women.

    Not one apostle was a woman.

    Not one pastor/elder/teacher in the churches was a woman.

    Why? Because God said the man is to be head of the HOME and the CHURCH, for it was Eve who was DECEIVED by the serpant, not Adam.

    1Tim. 2: 11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 1Tim2: 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

    1Cor. 14: 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, 34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.

    Titus 1: 6 An elder must be blameless, the HUSBAND of but one wife, A MAN whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7 Since an overseer  is entrusted with God’s work, HE must be blameless—not overbearing,…8 Rather HE must be….9 HE must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that HE can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

    1Ti 3:1 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, HE desires a noble task…4 HE must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping HIS children submissive…

    10 times “he” or “himself” plus “husband” is used in 1Tim. 3 in regard to the REQUIREMENTS for being an elder/pastor in 1Tim. 3:1-7. Get that? In 7 verses “he” is used 10 times.

    In Titus 1 “he” is used 4 times plus “husband” in the span of 5 verses.

    Col 3:18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

    Eph 5:22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.

    It is overwhelming clear that God has the man as head of the churches. To deny this is to demonstrate unbelief and arrogance toward God’s Word and HIS authority. You sit in the seat of scoffers, immitating the Serpant, saying “Hath God said?” Yes HE has already dictated the ORDER of HIS churches.

    Greg, you will be ignored because you have treason in your heart against the Master, the Lord Jesus Christ. You are denying clear Scripture. You’ve bought into pagan feminism. And because you lack spiritual understanding and teachability to the Scripture, I will let you wallow in your sin. I won’t tangle with someone who has such a rebellious heart.

    Luk 6:46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?

    1Cor. 14: 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. AS IN ALL THE CONGREGATIONS OF THE SAINTS, 34 WOMEN SHOULD REMAIN SILENT IN THE CHURCHES. They are not allowed to speak, but MUST BE IN SUBMISSION, as the Law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 36 DID THE WORD OF GOD ORIGINATE WITH YOU? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37 If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you IS THE LORD’S COMMAND. 38 IF HE IGNORES THIS, HE HIMSELF WILL BE IGNORED.

  16. Bud Press says:

    Greg the Explorer:

    In an above post you stated, “Junia was identified by Paul as an apostle (Romans 16:7).” Let’s take a look at Romans 16:7 in the KJV and NASB:

    “Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me” (KJV).

    “Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners, who are outstanding among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me” (NASB).

    Upon careful reading, Romans 16:7 reveals that Junia(s) was a fellow Christian who had gained respect among the apostles. Junia(s) was not an apostle. Your interpretation is incorrect.

    With that in mind, I encourage you to read the following article, which will give you a better understanding of God’s role for women in the church:

    http://www.gotquestions.org/women-pastors.html

    Bud Press

  17. Mike L. says:

    Thanks so much for that, Greg!! I really do appreciate your efforts! I had not seen it presented as thoroughly as that before.

    I guess my “limited” point of view is based upon what probably a majority of evangelicals believe but I really do sincerely appreciate what you’ve posted!! I am going to copy it and keep it and I will do just what you have suggested and I WILL revisit my position and see what the Lord has for me as I study it. That being said, please allow me to comment from my current understanding.

    I would like to revisit a couple things. I believe you have taken Gal. 3.28 out of context because that passage is not about women in leadership. The context is the law versus faith and also recall that Paul was spanking the Galatians because of their propensity for forgetting what they have been taught about faith and works. The Judaizers were coming in and spewing their false doctrine and Paul had to set them straight. I believe the point Paul was making in that particular passage was that since we are all baptized in Christ, we have put on Christ and as such, there is no difference. He was dealing with the lies that works of the law were required (the Judaizers can be thanked for that) and were an essential part of salvation. Paul quickly shoots that down with this wonderful epistle, the Magna Charta of the church, so to speak. There most certainly IS a unity in Christ and yet men and women have roles laid out in Scripture on this side of eternity. For this reason, I would discount Gal. 3.28 in your argument.

    As for Deborah, let’s take a look at her role. She was most definitely a prophetess. However, if you study the role of a prophet or prophetess, they weren’t in leadership positions. They were, by their very title, messengers of God. Deborah dwelt under a palm tree and people went to her for judgment. A prophet exercises no authority of his or her own but communicates the messages and decisions of the One who has sent him or her. I would also point out the vast difference between the male prophets of old and the female prophetesses. Both Deborah and Huldah did their ministry privately. The male prophets were the ones told to go out and loudly proclaim the word of the Lord; not the women.

    Tabitha was not a leader. This discussion isn’t about whether or not a woman can serve in the church. It’s about the LEADERSHIP role. That is a very large distinction.

    Paul makes no mention of Euodias and Syntyche as leaders of the local body in Philippi. They were spoken of as labouring with him in the gospel. This makes perfect sense since Christianity is not a spectator sport. We are ALL called to labor in the gospel; male OR female. But again, that is not a leadership issue; it’s an issue of our calling as children of the Most High and our mandate found in Matt. 28.19-20.

    As for Phebe, yes, she was a deaconess, a helper, a servant. The Greek supports that. Again, context is king, me thinks. Culturally, the women were often separated from the men and so other women had to minister to the women. I believe that Phebe was one of those who ministered to the women. I know that the Apostolic Constitutions spoke of this. Vincent says of the work diakonos, “The word may be either masculine or feminine. Commonly explained as deaconess. The term διακόνισσα deaconess is found only in ecclesiastical Greek. The “Apostolical Constitutions” distinguish deaconesses from widows and virgins, prescribe their duties, and a form for their ordination. Pliny the younger, about a.d. 104, appears to refer to them in his letter to Trajan, in which he speaks of the torture of two maids who were called minestrae (female ministers). The office seems to have been confined mainly to widows, though virgins were not absolutely excluded. Their duties were to take care of the sick and poor, to minister to martyrs and confessors in prison, to instruct catechumens, to assist at the baptism of women, and to exercise a general supervision over the female church-members. Tryphaena, Tryphosa, and Persis (Rom_16:12) may have belonged to this class. See on 1Ti_5:3-16. Conybeare (“Life and Epistles of St. Paul”) assumes that Phoebe was a widow, on the ground that she could not, according to Greek manners, have been mentioned as acting in the independent manner described, either if her husband had been living or she had been unmarried. Renan says: “Phoebe carried under the folds of her robe the whole future of Christian theology.”

    Junia was not identified as an apostle. In fact, that particular name is still in debate as to it’s gender. I wouldn’t count that one as ipso facto truth supporting a woman apostle. Also, the passage says that Andronicus and Junia were “of note among the apostles.” That just says they were known; not that they were leaders of churches.

    So, that’s my take on those females mentioned. I’m certainly open to further discussion but this thread is probably not the place unless Chrystal feels it is pertinent to the topic of Barbie.

    In summary, women serving in the church is Scriptural and necessary for we are all called to serve. HOW we serve and what roles we may serve as male and female is also presented in Scripture and it behooves us to seek and to know the truth on this issue as well.

    In His service,

    Mike

  18. Mike A says:

    The general tone of this forum has been turning rather antagonistic as of late. Just an observation.

    Also – I had the “not so pleasure” of watching a 10 minute Rob Bell video at church this past Sunday. I have never viewed one before and was shocked, not at how un-bilical the video was, but how I could see that a very young believer could be taken in by this sort of teaching. Very relational, uses the same terminology, and he is not a raving lunatic. To say the least..I was shocked and appalled that it was…I never saw that one coming and still do not know what to think.

    Sorry to go off topic. I could not hold it in any longer.

  19. unworthy1 says:

    Berean Gal, You are right, women are NOT to teach, preach, or be in authority over men when we gather to worship. I know many will debate this, but you have already given God’s word pertaining to this matter. Those who cherry pick verses to their liking often overlook passages pertaining to their pet sins.

    Lyn

  20. Mike L. says:

    Good word, Lyn. And you hit the nail right on the head when you mention people overlooking passages that clearly speak about certain pet sins. Either that or they reason it away somehow, often in the name of social relevance for the modern world and the supposed “need” to adjust Scripture to fit our day. NOT. What God spoke 2000 years ago He meant for today as well.

    A classic example of this is a guy I knew who used 1 Cor. 16.20 as a basis justifying his homosexuality and saying that God encouraged it and condoned it based upon this verse. After showing him many passages to the contrary, he said that he and God had come to an agreement as to his lifestyle. Well, little does he realize that the “agreement” is only one-sided.

    In His service,

    Mike

  21. Bud Press says:

    Mike A:

    Yes, Rob Bell is off-topic for this thread, but in what context was the Rob Bell video shown in your church? To expose his false teachings or promote his worldview?

    There is plently of information available on Rob Bell, and why Christians should avoid him. Feel free to contact me at admin@christianresearchservice.com for information.

    Bud Press

  22. Berean Gal says:

    Thanks Lyn and Mike, the Word of God is clear on
    this subject….PERIOD.
    No gray area, no massaging of Scripture to fit it
    into your religious cubby-hole.
    Praise God for the firm, sure foundation of the Word.
    A rock we can stand upon.

  23. Berean Gal says:

    Thanks to you too Denise!
    Great points!!!

  24. anna says:

    Ah, here I step where angels fear to tread… I believe that I Corinthians 14:33-35 cannot be used as a proof-text for silencing women in the church. Here is why: The entire passage of I Cor. 14:26-40 is about maintaining a peaceful and orderly meeting.

    In verse 28, Paul says that if there is no interpreter, then the tongue-speakers should keep quiet — rather than hollering “nonsense” that will confuse visitors and not edify believers.

    In verse 30, Paul says that the prophets should take turns, and the others should keep quiet — rather than hollering over each other and creating pandemonium.

    And then in verse 34, Paul says that if the women have questions, they should keep quiet — rather than hollering questions to their husbands (who are sitting across the room with the men). Ask them later.

    The whole passage is to bring correction to a church who conducted their services in a three-ring-circus manner. Paul discusses the place of women in other places, but this does not appear to be one of them.

    Just my two cents (from a woman)… :|

  25. anna says:

    Thanks for asking Chrystal. Let me preface my comments with this: I believe that the Scripture is totally inspired and always right. If I do not understand something, or it doesn’t make sense, or (worse) I don’t like what it says — well, the Holy Spirit is right and I am wrong. I will pray for understanding, and if I still don’t get it, then I will put it on the shelf and wait for understanding.

    When looking for understanding, I get out my interlinear Bible to see what the original words are, and a really good Bible dictionary that explains the words.

    After studying the I Timothy 2 passage, this is how I understand it: First of all, I look at WHO Paul was writing to. In this case it is Timothy, the overseer (pastor) of the church of Ephesus. Ephesus was a female-dominated city whose identifying goddess was Diana, queen of hunters. As in the Corinthian passage, Paul is correcting a problem in the church.

    The whole passage about women spans verses 9-15. And I see Paul as saying something like this, “I know how women in Ephesus act, but this is how Christian women are to conduct themselves…

    v. 9-10 Not parading around in finery like goddesses or temple whores (made up to look like Diana), but dressed in modest clothes and “dressed” in good deeds.

    v. 11-12 They are to fully embrace learning the Christian way in quiet tranqulity, existing in [almost a oneness with] submission in the sense of proper God-ordained order. I (Paul) do not permit a woman to tutor (direct, advise as a discipler), nor be a self-appointed, domineering autocrat over her husband. But I (Paul) repeat… she is to exist in quiet peacefulness.

    So it seems to me that this passage is about how women are to conduct themselves, and what attitude they are to have in relationship to their husbands. It is clear from chapter 3 that Paul expects that the leaders will be men, and that their wives will follow his direction as to their demeanor.

    But as for women teaching, I look at the word Paul used and realize that he does not mean that women cannot convey information to men. But as for tutoring, directing, advising… I think we would all agree that it is not wise for a woman to disciple (or mentor) a man, but in Titus Paul directed older women to train (disciple) younger women in proper Christian conduct.

    So I do not see this verse as a gag order for women. The phrase “They must be silent” simply means that Christian women should have a meek and quiet (peaceful like calm waters) spirit that exemplifies contentment with God’s family order.

    I welcome your thoughts or corrections. :)

    • Chrystal says:

      But that’s not what Paul said. He made two statements there, not one. He said he suffered not a woman to teach nor (the NASB says or) to usurp authority over a man. You can’t combine them, each statement stands on it’s own and then relates.

      I have heard many throughout the years say, “Paul was talking only to the women in that church because the women were out of order.” Problem is, that’s not what that passage says. If you do a few translational gymnastics you can come to that conclusion. Is it written in 2 Timothy 2:12? Did Paul, who was great at completing his thoughts, say that? Teaching is a position of authority, which women do not have over men in the church.

      If you’ll read verse 13, you’ll see Paul’s reasoning…”For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.”

      Going all the way back to Genesis, we’ll see that God had an order set up and men were to be the head of the women. Men are the head of the women just as Christ Jesus is the head of the church. Paul emphasizes that in verse 13 and drives the point home in verse 14.

  26. anna says:

    “What” is not what Paul said? I didn’t think I combined the statements — I realize they are two.

    I also don’t think that Paul was applying his principles to just the women in Ephesus. I thought I conveyed that when I said “this is how Christian women [in any culture or time] are to conduct themselves.”

    But I still maintain that women should not disciple/mentor men, but that they are free to give information — else how would there be women who prophesy?

    And I also maintain that the role that exists between husband and wife (as far back as Adam and Eve) cannot be extrapolated to mean that every man in the church is over every woman in the church. Each husband is over his own wife, and she is subject to him.

    Truly I am willing to be wrong. If I’m not understanding this passage correctly, then I pray for better understanding of God’s word. I do not want to engage in “translational gymnastics,” for I believe that the Holy Spirit said what He wanted to say. So I use the tools that I have to see what was said in the original language so that I can understand more fully.

  27. seeker3k says:

    Would women running blogs that critique falsehood and uphold truth be “teaching in the church” and therefore improper?

    Neither men nor women are permitted to add to the Bible by teaching new doctrines.

    The Bible was closed off from additions or insertions approximately 2000 years ago.

    Every individual should make it their business to read the Bible and use it to confirm or reject what teachers are teaching.

    That is the most important thing in the background of debates about women teaching.

    Back to Barbie……………..

    Voodoo Barbie.

    >> I only shudder to think of what apostate church leaders will come up with next

    Maybe Voodoo Barbie, with a Charismatic annointing kit to make all the other Barbie dolls fall over (“slain”), then vanish into Barbie 3rd heaven.

    Or Mammon Barbie, who preaches sermons about tithing to Barbie Kingdom.

    When critiquing corruption that has got into the church, a defence is often made “you shouldn’t throw out the baby with the bath water”.

    However in some cases there is no real “baby in the bathwater”, it is just a plastic Barbie “Jesus doll” (church people are following a false christ).

    Throw out the Barbie doll and the bathwater (leave churches and fellowships that have become perverted through following a false christ), and go back to reading and following the Bible with reasonable, in context interpretation.

    Have fellowship with believers who love the truth, and keep away from “believers” who love compromise.

    Compromisers make themselves known with defences like “nobody is perfect” and “don’t judge”.

    Ephesians 5:8-11 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth, finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

    2 Timothy 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

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