Melissa Fisher: Mortuary Outreach

Melissa Fisher, with Patricia King’s Extreme Prophetic, talks about her evangelism team’s mortuary outreach, where they go into the mortuaries in an attempt to raise the dead.  Needless to say, it has never worked.

It’s those dead peoples’ fault.  They didn’t have enough faith!

 

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33 Responses to Melissa Fisher: Mortuary Outreach

  1. Jeremy Hulsey says:

    um………yeah

    This is sad.

  2. Margie In Oz says:

    Did PK pay for this fruitcake to be released from the nut house to make this video. She says just after the 5 minute mark “if there are other dead people that come in that wanted to be raised”, so does that mean she asks them first?? How dare she pray that people receive a “violent spirit”. If anyone really believe this witch and the one who promotes her, then surely their delusion is great.

  3. Bud Press says:

    On September 26, 2008, I wrote the following to Extreme Prophetic:

    “During visits to the mortuaries, has there been any raised from the dead? If so, how many? Will you provide the name of the mortuary so we can check it out?”

    On the same day, the following reply was received from an Extreme Prophetic representative, who chose to remain anonymous:

    Greetings Friend,
    So far we have not had anyone raised from the dead. However we have made steps of faith and made efforts to connect with mortuaries.We’ve let them know what we believe the Bible says about seeing people raised from the dead and that we are available to pray for those deceased whose families are open to letting us pray. We’ve had amazing encounters of the Lord showing up to impact the people working at the mortuaries. Hope this answers your question.

    God’s Best,
    XP support
    http://www.xpmedia.com
    [###]

    While the Extreme Prophetic rep’s statement speaks for itself, this article, “Todd Bentley and the ’13th Resurrection'” may provide some insight into the validity of ALL of the claimed resurrections during the Florida Outpouring: http://www.christianresearchservice.com/ToddBentley5.htm . See also Luke 16:19-31

  4. Lavrai says:

    Wow. Instead of going into the streets to evangelize to the LIVING — who still have time to choose whom they will serve, these people are proud of seeking out dead people whose time ran short a long time ago.

    But that’s cool, I guess. At least they’re distracted and not bothering GOD’s people. But I shouldn’t even say that — for they obviously need Jesus Christ to save them. It appears they do not know HIM (or don’t want to know HIM).

    And, no, I didn’t watch the video.

  5. Chrystal says:

    Bud, excellent!

    Lavrai, I thought the exact same thing about spending time among the dead while the living are in desperate need of salvation.

    Another thing occurs to me as well… if I die before the Lord returns, and someone were to resurrect me, I’d punch them right in the nose. When God allowed Samuel to be brought up to give the message to Saul, he was irritated and asked Saul, “Why have you disturbed me?!?!”

    Once they have entered Heavenly rest in the presence of Christ, do we really want to call them back here into a world riddled with sin, and flesh that wars daily against the spirit? I don’t think so!

    It is my opinion that those who seek to raise the dead are selfish. They do not seek God’s will, they just want power. That is very self-centered, not Christ-centered.

  6. Carol says:

    When I thought I’ve heard of everything, I find something outrageous as this! Mortuary Outreach..how can these people think their own spiritual deadness could raise anyone from the dead? And how can you evangelize to the dead?

    Is their excuse that nobody was raised from the dead is due to their “lack of faith” and they didn’t “sew any seeds” into the ministry in order to be raised from the dead?

    These things are truly disturbing.

  7. Bud Press says:

    Chrystal:

    Thank you.

    Melissa Fisher and her “Mortuary Outreach” team (which is overshadowed by Patricia King), dug deep in their bag-o-sensational gimmicks to come up with this one.

    But be alert and on guard, my dear friends, because we “ain’t” seen nothing yet.

    God bless,
    Bud Press

  8. Bud Press says:

    And speaking of Melissa Fisher and raising the dead, check out this very misleading advertisment on InJesus.com at http://tinyurl.com/FisherVideo .

    Note the words, “Watch Raising the Dead Testimonies” in the ad.

    Note also the key words in the intro paragraph, “…practice raising the dead.”

    –Bud

  9. Chrystal says:

    Another thing Melissa Fisher is not taking time to consider is if those she is attempting to resurrect are lost. Would they be brought back from Hell in order to be given another shot at salvation when God’s Word says, “It is appointed unto man once to die, and after this the judgment.”?

    Are they saved? If so, like I said above, they have entered into rest, and she is trying to bring them back HERE?!?! What collosal ignorance!

    Some people just don’t think.

  10. Chrystal says:

    Bud,

    There’s more than one way to draw them in, and misleading advertising seems to be a real winner for these people.

  11. Jessie says:

    What an extraordinary post. This is the first time I have ever heard of this. Its quite absurd and very sad. I am actually quite aghast that someone would go to a mortuary to try and attempt to raise the dead!!! I agree with all the comments that the living are dying without Jesus and still have time to turn to Him and that the dead are actually well, dead. The focus of Ms Fisher is not on the Lord and the lost. Its the seeking after signs and wonders again. Chrystal, I’d also want to punch someone on the nose if they tried to ressurect me after I had died – I had a good chuckle at your comment- Thank you :-)

  12. Bud Press says:

    Chrystal:

    You brought up some excellent points (i.e., the lost brought back from hell and the saved brought back from heaven).

    As you know, in the story of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31), God’s written word clearly teaches that there is a “great chasm” or “gulf” fixed between heaven and hell. Upon death, the lost go to hell; the saved go to heaven.

    Whether lost or saved, the physical body goes to the grave; the person’s spirit goes to heaven or hell. And, according to Luke 16:26, there is no crossover or return–no second chance.

    “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation” (Hebrews 9:27-28).

    In her ignorance, Melissa Fisher fails to realize these things and distorts/twists the Scriptures to her own destruction (2 Peter 3:16).

    Indeed, God’s written word puts “trips/visits” to heaven and hell in proper perspective.

    But, “You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen” (2 Peter 3:17-18).

  13. Margie In Oz says:

    You know, I can’t help wondering if they are really just laughing at us as they “take the mickey” out of Christians, like a spoof on Christianity. The church is portrayed like this in the movies and the world laughs too, all the way to hell! What blatant mockery but sadly much of the church loves and promotes it. It’s also why I am not in a fellowship at the moment. If anyone in Melbourne’s north east, Australia knows of a discerning bible based church please let me know where they are.

  14. Bud Press says:

    Hi Margie In Oz:

    While there may be some, I don’t know of any discerning churches in Melbourne, Australia. If I hear of any I’ll let you know.

    But one thing I do know is that since the Florida Outpouring, there are a growing number of hyper-Charismatics that have come out of the woodwork prowling for “heresy hunters” and anyone who speaks-out against their prophets and teachers.

    With an elitist mentality, they established their pride-filled exclusivity and crawled into the battle howling their worn out, carbon-copied phrases, “Stop attacking God’s anointed! Stop judging! Stop hating!” and more.

    Some even claim the “heresy hunters” hate Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit–a claim that not only salivates with pride-filled elitism and exclusivity, it smacks of cultism.

    In their zeal to rid the world of discernment ministries, these wolves fail to realize that they, themselves, stand in false judgement of the one’s they accuse of judging. They become what they detest the most. Indeed, their ignorance of Scripture and hypocrisy knows no boundaries.

    They justify the wicked and condemn the righteous, which in God’s eyes is an abomination (Proverbs 17:15).

    But in the midst of the battle, Bible-based Christians armed themselves with the Sword of the Spirit, put on the full armor of God, and wasted no time in defending the faith and exposing the unfruitful works of the dark revival all over the internet.

    Praise the Lord!

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  16. dburrows1278 says:

    I guess they’ve given up on outreach to the ones who can still hear and receive, huh?

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  18. Mark D says:

    Thank you for posting this — it is encouraging to see increasing discernment regarding the heresies and outright occultism of the “New” Latter Rain Revival movement which is not only storming the gates of “heaven” but is storming the doors of eager “gift-seeking” churches world-wide.

    While lamenting the moral failure of their fallen “revivalist” Todd Bentley, dozens of prominent false teachers and false prophets continue to espouse and promote the identical bizarre practices and doctrines of devils that the world witnessed via GodTV from Lakeland. “Extreme Prophetic” associate Melissa Fisher is only acting upon the doctrinal statement of her employer.

    I summarized Patricia King’s (Coking’s) position on raising the dead in an article called “Latter-Rain Outpouring or Golden Calf Revival” here (scroll down or search for “TBC Extra”): http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6906

    Here is an excerpt:

    Similar evasive action was performed by Latter-Rain prophetess and avid Bentley supporter Patricia King, who also withdrew from her website “controversial” teachings on raising the dead and communing with [dead] saints, although she maintains, “I do believe that the Lord is divinely releasing visitation from The Great Cloud of Witnesses” (supposedly tangible, real encounters with spirits of departed biblical saints and loved ones). To strengthen one’s “faith” for raising the dead, King has recommended practicing on roadkill (dead animals). She wrote, “I believe that a person can be raised from the dead and then saved.” When confronted with Hebrews 9:27 and other Scriptures, she did not repent or recant of any of these false teachings but simply stated, “I shared prematurely…too much at times, too soon, to some of the wrong people concerning [these] subject[s].” In other words, “It’s not my fault you don’t get it, but because your ‘natural mind’ can’t receive it, I’ll take it away…for now.”

    Here is the source for these quotes, direct from Patricia’s “conflict/resolution” statement on her website:

    http://www.extremeprophetic.com/conflict_positional_statement_pg6.htm

    Watchmen (this biblical term includes women too!) will find much more alarming material in King’s six-page “positional statement” on this site.

    It is also important to note that King violated her “oath” (as part of her 2006 “conflict resolution”) to not teach about these things, having sponsored a “Raising the Dead” conference in the Phoenix area as recently as February 2008, featuring none other than Todd Bentley. Her full endorsement and promotion of Melissa Fisher’s “field trip” with Extreme Prophetic “apprentices” is further evidence of her broken silence on the matter.

    It should be further known that false prophet Bob Jones (not the University founder) is the source of much of the neo-gnostic enlightenment and inspiration for King, Bentley, and a host of other false prophets. It was Jones who told Bentley that he would be visited by “resurrection angels” in Lakeland.

    The same views on “heavenly visitations” with departed (dead) saints is held by dozens of influential, high-profile “prophetic” and “apostolic” pastors and leaders. But this is necromancy and communion with “familiar spirits” — which Scripture clearly defines as witchcraft and an abomination (it doesn’t matter who the demons are impersonating when the appear as messengers of light).

    Many more who do not publicly teach these things undoubtedly hold similar views, but as King acknowledged of herself, they viewed as prophetic “forerunners” and must be careful not to share “too much, too soon — or at least, they must be careful to share it only with the “right people.”

    The very first item on page one of her positional statement is a core violation of Scripture. King declares, “I saw the church walking in many of the things that are testified of and attested to in the Scriptures. Some examples are: A. Appearances of Christ like the disciples experienced following His resurrection and like Paul experienced on the road to Damascus. He will appear to believers and non-believers.”

    Do your research — Matthew 24 is a good chapter to start. Look at the words of Jesus. Do a search for “another Jesus” and “another gospel” and “another spirit.”

    Folks, while we must always seek and pursue God with our whole heart, mind, and sould, the knowledge of Christ that our Lord wishes us to have is already contained in his word. It is not acquired by an esoteric, out-of-body (mind) encounter with angels of light.

    Please continue to grow in knowledge, and expose the Latter Rain for what it is: A neo-gnostic cult of esoteric enlightenment based on necromancy, familiar spirits, and doctrines of demons.

    But do so biblically and accurately, not condemning the people in self-righteousness, in the spirit of Galatians 6:1, weeping, as did the Apostle Paul (Acts 20:29-31) for their genuine awakening, repentance, and deliverance.

    While some of these false teachers may be genuinely saved (their hearts are not up to us to judge—but their fruits are) they are in fact presenting another gospel that will result in multitudes being turned away by Christ (Matthew 7:21-23).

    So, we must continue to counter the lies of the enemy that have infiltrated the church. Thanks to all involved in helping to “earnestly contend for the faith” as the days grow spiritually darker, with evil men and seducers waxing worse and worse (Jude).

    P.S. Extreme Prophetic and their “itinerate DJ” Caleb Brundidge is also involved in promoting “yoga trance dancing” in the name of “prophetic worship” or “ekstasis worship” which is simply a free-for-all frenzy that leads to hyperventilation and hypnotic inducement which prepares a body for spirit possession (which they of course mistake for the Holy Spirit). Details here:

    http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6535

    (Search or scroll down to “TBC Extra” — “Apostolic Apostasies Attract”

  19. Carol says:

    With the madness of the idea of having a mortuary outreach, somebody actually sat and thought about doing this. Although God would never permit this to happen, one may wonder what they were thinking and what would they have done with those raised from the dead?

    If this wasn’t so sadly true, one may have thought this to be funny.

  20. Eric Hensley says:

    Although I whole heartedly disagree with what this ministry is doing, I would like to remind the Christian community that the Doctrine of the Resurrection from the dead is Christian. It is our hope, and what our faith is based upon, that Christ has raised from the dead. Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead in John 11; Paul preached in Acts that the doctrine of the resurrection of the dead was the reason for him being thrust out of the temple (Acts 23:6; Acts 24:21). And if Christ has not risen, then we still our dead in our sins and our faith futile (1 Cor 15:17)

    What Extreme Prophetic ministries is doing in sinning presumptuously; assuming God has told them specifically to “raise the dead” when He hasn’t. Remember Jesus only said and did that which the Father told Him to say and do. The Apostles did the same with Christ and the Holy Spirit. If God told Extreme Prophetic to raise the dead, there would be no need to practice, because it would have happened on the first try.

    Ps 19:13 – “Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins; Let them not have dominion over me. Then I shall be blameless, And I shall be innocent of great transgression.”

    This is my short thought, using little scripture to a wonderful Christian Doctrine and also to a very serious sin in people’s lives; presuming to act for God when God has not told them to act. Yet, let us not make a mockery concerning an undeniable tenant of the Christian Faith when exhorting others who presume to act for God. The Resurrection of the Dead is absolutely Christian and what we look forward too…

    John 5:24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth–those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.”

  21. Carol says:

    We are aware that the resurrection is of God and found in Scriptures. Jesus’ being the most blessed and awesome thing that has happened in human history! Not to mention the miracles of those being raised from the dead in the New Testament AND the coming resurrection of the dead in Christ.

    But when false teachers and “ministries” make a mockery of the faith by presenting a “Mortuary Outreach” as though raising of the dead by the masses will be an act of some lunatic “ministry” rather than an act of God, then we have to call it as we see it.

    Raising people from the dead just to make a “show” of some “outreach” is not glorifying God, but drawing attention to some strange sect of people who think they have the power to resurrect.

  22. bdstimpson says:

    I don’t normally post comments on blogs, especially when I’m a bit of a stranger there, and I find myself of the minority opinion, but… I felt something had to be mentioned.

    I would just like to say that, though I disagreed with this Melissa Fisher’s personality (way too excited to be credible), I can find little in her theology or motives that is wrong.

    The Bible clearly states that Jesus raised the dead (see John 11 for instance), and it also states that believers (you, me, and Joe Shmoe down the street) will do the same and even greater deeds as Jesus (John 14:12). In his instructions to his followers, Jesus even told them to raise the dead (Matthew 10:8). And that was before he had sent them to do much of anything at all.

    Now, it’s also true that Jesus *probably* didn’t raise every dead person he came across. (At least, I assume that. We really can’t say for sure because the Bible only mentions the times when Jesus ran into a dead guy and *did* raise him.)

    To say that someone is sinning by going around asking if they can pray for dead people seems awful odd to me considering Jesus told his followers to go raise the dead.

    Sure, it’s a goofy, weird, crazy “outreach” that goes against our sense of dignity and appropriateness… but is it wrong? I have a hard time saying it’s wrong because it is in the Bible.

    (And speaking of goofy, weird, crazy ideas… praying for dead people to come back sure isn’t as crazy to me as is changing water into wine for no apparent reason.)

  23. Carol says:

    I would have to wonder what “outreach” would these people provide for those who would be raised? This is madness. Something that someone would raise those from hell, but what would they do with them? Provide yoga classes? Contemplative prayers? Have clowns minister to them? Pass out the Message Bible for them to read? Have them listen to Christian Rock Music? Serve them coffee and donuts? The system we thought was supposed to be sound Christianity that ended up a strange place with distorted teachings, is this where they would send them?

  24. Bud Press says:

    Hi bdstimpson:

    Speaking of raising the dead, during the Florida Outpouring, Todd Bentley claimed that over 30 resurrections from the dead took place.

    According to Bentley, the “13th resurrection” took place in a funeral home, and involved a dead man raising to life from his coffin.

    Well, in light of 1 Thessalonians 5:21, I contacted major funeral homes in and around Lakeland, Florida, and asked if they had witnessed a dead man raised to life from his coffin. The article detailing my research and results is at

    http://www.christianresearchservice.com/ToddBentley5.htm .

    So, what’s my point? At the beginning of the video, Patricia King cited Matthew 10:8 and stated that “raising the dead has always been a mandate of the church.”

    In turn, Melissa Fisher shares her “Mortuary Outreach” and strongly implies that she and her team are under a mandate from God to raise the dead.

    Now, if God approved of the Mortuary Outreach, and mandated Patricia King, Melissa Fisher and the Extreme prophetic team to raise the dead, why haven’t the dead been raised? (Please refer to my 10/4-11:52am post above)

    The answer is simple: God did not mandate them to do it, because He has already addressed the issue in Luke chapter 16.

    Yes, God’s written word provides reliable accounts of people raised from the dead and healed of all manner of diseases and illnesses. However, God will not–under any circumstances–contradict His written word.

    And Luke 16:26 makes it crystal clear that when people die they go to heaven or hell. Whatever the case may be, there is no return:

    “And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.”

    As long as the mortuary management allows it, Melissa Fisher is free to “practice” raising the dead at mortuaries. However, had she studied (not read but studied) Luke chapter 16, she would have saved herself the time and embarrassment.

    Patricia King and Melissa Fisher sound so convincing, as did Todd Bentley. But if Melissa Fisher were a discerning Christian, she wouldn’t be joined-at-the-hip with Patricia King and Extreme Prophetic in the first place.

    In Christian love,
    Bud Press

  25. bdstimpson says:

    Thanks, Bud Press, for the insightful response. I enjoyed your article concerning Todd Bentley. What a shame to share “facts” without checking if they’re actually true. That “bad habit” (sin?) has been one of my pet peeves since coming to read and investigate things more.

    Maybe this isn’t the place for a long discussion, but I don’t believe Luke 16:26 refers to resurrection so much as to the “distance” (whether physical, spiritual, or in some other way, I don’t know) between the saved and the damned. Maybe I’m understanding it incorrectly, but it almost seems to argue in favor resurrections. Rather than Abraham telling the rich man, “Hey, buddy, quit asking for Lazarus to go warn your family. You know resurrections are impossible” he says, “Even if he did rise from the dead, it wouldn’t work.” I know that’s arguing a point by an *absence* of evidence (there’s probably some word for that), so it doesn’t hold much water, but it does make me wonder.

  26. Carol says:

    I think it’s sad that the time and energy should be spent on the living while they are still living. Preach the gospel from the Scriptures and not try to twist Scriptures to fit some mad idea someone gets.

  27. Bud Press says:

    Hi bdstimpson:

    Thanks. I appreciate your kindness.

    It is important to remember that Todd Bentley (and many others within the “New Apostolic Reformation”) claim to operate within the gifts of the Spirit, travel back-and-forth to heaven, and experience one-on-one visitations from angels and “Jesus.”

    If this were true, then why didn’t the angels, Holy Spirit, or “Jesus” warn Todd Bentley (and others) of ALL the falsehoods that sprang from the Florida Outpouring before they took place?

    Well, God does not honor false prophets, false teachers, and false healers. Further, the entire “revival” was overshadowed by demonic activity–Satan being the great betrayer.

    So, hold tight to God’s written word and keep on investigating that which claims to be Christian (1 Thessalonians 5:21; 1 John 4:1).

    Concerning Luke 16, we know that upon death the body goes to the grave. The spirit of the saved go to heaven, while the spirit of the unsaved go to hell.

    The “great chasm” in Luke 16:26 pertains to the great distance from heaven to hell. In other words, once an unsaved person dies, he or she goes to hell and awaits the Great White Throne judgement, where the unsaved dead will be cast into the eternal lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15).

    And concerning the unsaved, John 3:18 teaches that “He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (see also John 5:24; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

    Unless there is repentance from sin and acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, the unsaved will go to hell–no second chance; no excuses; no purgatory.

    And the next time someone claims they have been to heaven and toured the throne of God, remember what God’s written word says must take place before the believer goes to heaven:

    “Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality” (1 Corinthians 15:50-53).

    In Christian love,
    Bud Press

  28. Eli says:

    Crystal,
    I thought THE SAME THING! Since the Lord has promised that to be absent from the body is to be present with Him, when I pass away, please do NOT let these people resurrect me!

    What a bunch of lunatics! And witches.

  29. Eli says:

    PS. to Bud:

    I love your site (CRS), and your reasoning is always sound and thorough. You always defend the faith with tact kindness and decorum. 2 thumbs up for your posts.

  30. Carol says:

    I’m thankful that there are sound people still proclaiming the truth. In the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, we need soundness of doctrine, not crazed people trying to conjure up the dead. There is a difference. God would never bless people raising the dead as part of some “conjuring” up, and certainly not to bring them back to life and then teach them a false doctrine???

    Don’t think so.

  31. melissa says:

    Amen Carol….amen.

  32. Carol says:

    When I read about these really bizarre things people claim they do for God it causes me to wonder where they get their “spiritual information”? Are they truly saved or are they just playing “church” just to make money and a name? Are they nominal believers with just a pinch of wisdom and no concept of who God really is or what His Word teaches? Are they confused as to what God wants people to be doing these days?

    Not only this appalling concept, but any of the madness in churches these days, clown communions, pro wrestlers, jugglers, comedians, Elvis Impersonators, motorcycle tricks on stage, false anointing “revivals” etc, etc…how does any of these things bring glory to God? It brings shame to His Holy Name and the remnant of sound believers who are shaking their heads in wonder at all of the insanity wondering where it will end and how long must we have to see it?

    Each time one turns around, it gets stranger, sicker and more abominable.

    How long Oh Lord, how long?

  33. Bud Press says:

    Eli:

    Thank you for the encouragement. I appreciate your kindness.

    I give all the credit to the Lord. For in the midst of all the apostasy and garbage, if it weren’t for Him I would probably “Come out of the gate with my hair on fire–traveling at Mach 2.” :)

    Stay strong in the Lord and the truth of His written word.

    God bless you,
    Bud

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